Here’s some more points, that the short Wiki article doesn’t fully address

The class-conscious proletariat can give its consent to a revolutionary war, which would really justify revolutionary defencism, only on condition: (a) that the power pass to the proletariat and the poorest sections of the peasants aligned with the proletariat; (b) that all annexations be renounced in deed and not in word; that a complete break be effected in actual fact with all capitalist interests.

In view of the undoubted honesty of those broad sections of the mass believers in revolutionary defencism who accept the war only as a necessity, and not as a means of conquest, in view of the fact that they are being deceived by the bourgeoisie, it is necessary with particular thoroughness, persistence and patience to explain their error to them, to explain the inseparable connection existing between capital and the imperialist war, and to prove that without overthrowing capital it is impossible to end the war by a truly democratic peace, a peace not imposed by violence.

Though Revolutionary Defeatism necessitates the “revolutionary class” desiring and facilitating facilitating “the defeat of its government”. Revolutionary defeatism isn’t a moral or ethical stance that means “both sides are bad, therefore we should desire the defeat of both”, it’s a practical strategy for revolutionaries to pursue:

revolutionary tactics that are quite unfeasible unless they “contribute to the defeat” of their own government, but which alone lead to a European revolution, to the permanent peace of socialism, to the liberation of humanity from the horrors, misery, savagery and brutality now prevailing.

Revolutionaries in Russia should desire their country’s defeat in Ukraine, while those in the “West” should work towards the defeat of NATO. No one should condemn domestic opposition to the war effort in any country without a revolutionary government.

I mean actual anti-imperialist war is extremely good, but this is inter-imperialist war

you’re right, but linking to a wikipedia article and saying “some of you need to read this” will never not be funny

Putin Cringe

Azov Cringe

Wagner Group Cringe

US/NATO cringest for engineering this situation

Putin’s invasion = traditional nationalist imperialism + taking NATO’s bait. Claims of “denazifying” ukraine maybe bad faith, idk. I don’t live in Putin’s head.

US/NATO = Capitalist imperialism as described by Lenin

Libs say “NATO-haters love putin”

NATO-haters curled up in corner with shotgun screaming “I HATE NATO I HATE NATO”

Relevant info: NATO made in 1949 BEFORE the warsaw pact, to “combat soviet aggression” right after WW2 ended. Staffed by former nazis. Germany got way more reparations than USSR did. Read Washington Bullets by Vijay Prashad.