they don’t even seem to be tankies
Arguing that cracker is a slur is very “all lives matter” energy.
Also who here thinks that USSR or China are fascist pretending to be communist? Like what the fuck even is that?
just like the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei was socialist…
It doesn’t have the connotation of a slur, but it’s undeniably “a derogatory race-based term.” I don’t see how an in-person organization in the U.S. could be successful while allowing that, so it’s always struck me as extremely online that we do.
This is a case of “page of reactionary screed that includes one decent point made poorly,” and us being reflexively contrarian, which is 90% right when dealing with reactionaries but still leaves some considerable blind spots.
Nah. This guy already knows the counter argument and is itching to debatebro. Calling him a cracker and banning him is objectively correct
Anyone who is not joining because of the word Cracker was never gonna join
There are plenty of people who are interested in socialism, but if they show up to a socialist org and get called a cracker they’ll leave. It’s an insult.
We’re talking about politics and organizing people, right? To succeed at those you have to get people to like you, or at least not insult them, no matter how right you are. “Anyone who takes issue when I insult them is unreachable” is extremely online.
That’s too much of a determined take. Why not make a more appropriate (i.e. seems more likely) kinda claim:
Anyone who appears to be not joining because of the word Cr*cker was likely not going to join*
* without an amount of effort which could likely be better used elsewhere, towards materially marginalized groups, fomenting solidarity, organizing, etc.
NOTE: I try to give others a chance at least. Thankfully comrades such as yourself and others can operate more pragmatically rather than with naïvety and so can cover my blind spots
Arguing that cracker is a slur is very “all lives matter” energy.
A good measure of “not all men” energy too. White people need to learn to not identify with the construct of whiteness that makes white supremecy possible, just like men need to learn to not identify with the patriarchy.
I think he was arguing that “everyone” ( ) thinks that they are that and therefore because “everyone” believes something that makes it true, which means hexbear are just trolls pretending to like the evil baddies just to mess with people.
It’s kind of interesting how they always seem to default to that kind of defence when they meet a radically different viewpoint to their own. They are so insular that they can’t even imagine a person disagreeing with them honestly, all disagreement must be lies and trickery.
ya’ll just want to stick things together that don’t stick…
all lives matter is so far away from that
they’re pretty adamant about communism but everyone thinks the USSR, CCP, etc are fascist dictatorships pretending to be communist.
How has anyone possibly come away from here with that takeaway? Most people I’ve interacted with here will have specific concrete criticisms with all of the above, not just “oh it’s fascist”. That kind of critique is more what you would see in sectarian ultra or trot spaces. I swear people just gossip about us or something.
When your understanding of fascism is preschool-level. It all comes back to the “totalitarian” shit, and these people claim to be the “true leftists.” This isn’t gossip, it’s the one “compliment” they tried to give us.
lmao it’s that weirdo
why does everybody who gets banned here feel the need to make an account on another instance to whine about it lol
I feel like a lot of them are coddled and had very sheltered upbringings. Getting mocked on hexbear is the first feeling of conflict in their whole lives. Remember that one guy who made a screenshot album of evertime someone on hexbear was rude to him? And it was like a hundred twenty images? They’ve never encountered backlash or a moment of discomfort in their entire lives so when they encounter us saying something as simple as “shut up cracker” it’s like a knife to their gut
wow what, you have that thread/post?? not to mock them, honestly genuinely curious
favourite bit is where they downvoted every post which doesn’t even federate here lol
another kkkrakkka down
