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Both the EZLN like eachother so this is just a fake rivalry made up by people in the west

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Yeah, but the EZLN aren’t really anarchists. Neozapatismo is a fusion of anarchism, marxism, and a few other things.

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Marxism with Zapotec Characteristics.

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zapotecs are from oaxaca, the EZLN is in chiapas so they are mostly maya

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regardless of what real parties with actual impact on the world think of each other this is just pablum for terminally online weirdos larping

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It really brings my piss to a boil when my identity as a trans and queer person is used in this manner. Almost implying that I can’t be queer because I’m ML. It reminds me of how shitlibs love doing the same sort of thing by basically telling queer that they should support them over the state department’s enemy of the month.

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just once i’d like to see communists take power by asking nicely

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guillotines in the streets, asking nicely in the sheets

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What is it with western leftists and “anti-authoritarianism”?

It smells like just more libertarian fantasy.

Freaking Star Fleet has a central authority and chain of command and that’s about as pie in the sky as we can imagine.

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There are loads of reasons, among them western propaganda, but also how so many of the more structured western communist groups either became fed central or just had the leadership taken out. Anarchism is harder to root out not just because the feds are light on it, but also because who are you supposed to assassinate to take them down?

A significant amount of it is also because the big authorities they directly experience and oppose suck. If you oppose the US for it’s authoritarianism, why would you not oppose other places for authoritarianism?

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But who opposes the US for its authoritarianism?

Of the multitude of reasons, that’s one of the least in my book. It’s not about authority, it’s about how it’s wielded and against whom.

There’s nothing inherently wrong with authority. It’s about what systems and people it’s protecting. In the case of the US: it’s property and the robber baron class.

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People grow to assume that authority where they live is authority everywhere. You grow up your whole life suspicious of American cops, you aren’t likely to think cops are super cool, even if they’re revolutionary and Cuban.

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I would say that, under a strong implementation of democratic centralism, assassination is not a significant issue. Previous democratic centralist implementations have a history of being heavy on the centralism, light on the democratic, but if the party line really does come from the bottom up, the leader is only the most effective organizer. They do not need to be a visionary so much as a logistics nerd.

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With respect to our anarchist comrades, beyond liberal propaganda about “freedom” (that question-begs a set of assumptions about what freedom is that is basically purpose-built to benefit the bourgeois state), I think Gramsci has useful writing about crasser sorts of anarchists: https://redsails.org/discorso-agli-anarchici/

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the marginalized still tremble

oh sorry can’t hear you over colonized people getting autonomy and cultural dignity never experienced under the imperial systems they emerged from

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It doesn’t count as liberation unless white people do it for them.

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they have it both ways in all cases. russians and jews supporting regional autonomy & “affirmative action” in the USSR? that’s a colonial patriarchal mindset toward the indigenous

the indigenous people do it themselves but choose to associate with the former colonizers? that’s evidence that they are still under the thumb of the Russian Empire.

it doesn’t actually matter to them, it’s just a fucking line. if indigenous rights meant anything to the west [gestures at everything] this wouldn’t fucking be here

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like actually where do these fucking people get off the reason i’m a communist is because i studied and examined the way the socialist states have treated women and cultural minorities, it’s fucking absurd

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