Hexbear

23 points

4 years ago

Well I’m glad you’ve got someone to blame, but thats small solace by the look of it.

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16 points

4 years ago

I had to leave SAlt behind because of these motherfuckers. They ruined Kshama’s politics. They actively tricked people into believing voting for Democrats was ever fucking acceptable.

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25 points

4 years ago

You know some people genuinely do believe it’s acceptable, and you treating them as mindless rubes isn’t going to get you anything but a coronary.

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17 points

4 years ago

They’re not mindless but they are rubes subject to false consciousness, or being actively misled by shitty leaders who should know better. The task of Marxists is to convince workers they’ve been getting conned their entire fucking life and it is such an uphill battle that I don’t know if I’m going to make it past this decade.

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10 points

4 years ago

rubes subject to false consciousness, or being actively misled by shitty leaders who should know better.

Yeah maybe maybe not. It’s certainly a theoretical model that purports to explain it.

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21 points

4 years ago

The point of Marxist theory isn’t just to understand the world but to change it. I am actually trying to change people’s minds and want people to get organized so that we can actually fucking fight back for once in our miserable lives. I can’t fucking take life under capitalism anymore and the revolutionary task is the main thing keeping me from killing myself.

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14 points

4 years ago

I guess, but change peoples minds involves treating them and yourself as fallible people, not a prophet to correct them and lead them out of darkness. Their reasons for thinking what they think aren’t necessarily any worse than yours are.

As far as not making past this decade; try to relax. It also might help to shift from a personal morality model of politics (the people who disagree with me are evil and or dumb) to a more contingent model (the interaction of personality and exterior stimulus will inform a persons political views)

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sadfacenogains [none/use name]@hexbear.net

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4 points

4 years ago

Even if you convince everyone of the truth of Marxism, a small reminder is that all militaries in the world are controlled by ruling classes, this includes all nuclear weapons. Also, people lived under feudalism for a thousand years, while capitalism is still just 200 years old and far more dynamic than feudalism. Not trying to doompill you, but trying to make you realize that the solution isnt simply “convincing people”. Although that is a major step, there are many more steps that are even harder.

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gammison [none/use name]@hexbear.net

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7 points

4 years ago

There’s no Harrington people left in leadership and there hasn’t been for years. The anger they’re feeling is ridiculously unplaced.

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3 points

4 years ago

I did not know that. I still despise the current liberal/social-democratic DSA leadership for the reasons I laid out but will note that they aren’t technically Harringtonites.

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