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Is it? Chiang Kai-shek cemented his place in Chinese history for fighting alongside Sun Yat-sen against the military junta instituted after the fall of Qing. Chiang Kai-shek and Mao Zedong then led China through the Japanese invasion.

His place in Chinese history is undoubtable. You shouldn’t need to be perfect to be remembered.

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I don’t think you should be perfect to be remembered, I think you should at a bare minimum not also be known as “The Butcher of Shanghai” to contemporary historians.

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He put down an anti-government uprising by slaughtering 18,000 people. “Not perfect” is an understatement.

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They didn’t call his military dictatorship in Taiwan “The White Terror” because Chiang Kai-Shek was an imperfect guy

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Same argument could be applied to the people like Robert E. Lee who cemented their place in history. It’s just that they happen to be on the wrong side of history just as Chiang Kai-shek is.

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Yes, it is indeed a W.

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Having a place in history doesn’t automatically mean they should be honoured. There’s plenty of people from history that we can all agree have made a huge impact and yet we wouldn’t want statues of them.

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unironically hero worshipping literal nationalists

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