You don’t live in a real democracy. You can’t shame anyone here into voting in a sham election with two openly genocidal parties. Go back to

Wanting something does not change the reality of the situation.

very true! another good example of that: you want us to support genocide joe but the reality of the situation is we never will.

How about standing up to your corrupt government instead of meekly taking part in the farce it has set up to control you?

Are you that cowardly that revolution isn’t even an option to you?

The dems have pulled this “You’d better vote for us because the other guy will literally kill you if they win!” thing since the 60s, they’ve just shifted around the minority group they target with their threats. Please listen to this 8 minute speech by Malcolm X, it’s incredibly relevant here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg3dr-o4_fc

And what the fuck has Biden done about any of your concerns? You think he gives a fuck about LGBTQ people?

Biden is putting palastinians in the fucking ground and that is a complaint, but voting or not voting in this election doesn’t change that.

Don’t you see that’s the point? You’re accepting the framework of the two party system. God gave us two options and it would be sacrilege to deny him! You’re allowing the “harm reduction party” to do harm unchecked, where opposing them in any meaningful way is impossible because it leaves the door open for the other party. You’re guaranteeing them unlimited stability so that you can feel good about yourself for “reducing harm” forever. It doesn’t matter if you hate the genocide against Palestinians or imperialism if in the end you have the same total political impact as a geriatric suburbanite pig who loves Amerikkka and the Democrats to the core. Again, what is this nebulous “praxis” you referenced?

If your queer friends care more about the potential “harm reduction” done by staying within the lines and allowing the 2.5th Reich to carry on its crimes unchecked than actually promoting independent political organization by driving votes away from the two “options” while there is mass discontent and the potential for a better future either through abstention or voting/campaigning for PSL, the Green Party, etc., then they’re not worth it.

The best case scenario is you own the libs and while they scratch their heads…

Oh, here’s your problem! You are thinking like a child. This is what a child thinks elections are. You’ll never understand my position because you don’t understand the problem.

Your words are empty to me because i can tell by your attitude you do not “hear” what i am saying, or even hear the why of anything.

How could you? You are too busy deciding that everything, even genocide, must be viewed through the lens of the coming election.

Good god there’s gonna be a lot of masked liberals “talking sense to the left” coming up, huh?

Get better copypasta, because “don’t you care bout my queer/brown friends?” is already played out.

Biden is putting palastinians in the fucking ground and that is a complaint

Genocide is a little bit more than a complaint. Especially given that americans are supposed to stop Trump from doing the exact same thing.

Biden is putting palastinians in the fucking ground and that is a complaint

You think anyone’s gonna take your unprincipled ass seriously when you call genocide a fuckin “complaint”, you don’t care about queer people motherfucker, you hide behind their struggles trying to maintain your crumbling sense of normalcy

I want Trump to win precisely because liberal cockroaches like you will be forced to pretend to take genocide seriously, and in that way LESS people will indeed suffer, because there will be more pressure to oppose fascism unlike today when even the libs have gone full Nazi

I’d sacrifice every cishet white Amerikan in this country for any oppressed subject-of-empire in the world in a New York minute. Death to the settler empire, death to the DNC. Voting absolutely does affect my community; do you realize that Biden has sent more military surplus through the 1033 program to PDs all over the country than Trump did with the same amount of time? The cops in my city are two steps and another humvee from being a whole-ass new branch of the military, some City Force-type shit, but “voting doesn’t affect the orgs in my community”, fuckin sure.

I hope to Fuck you’re the first one to learn the consequences of your electoralist garbage.

I am not willing to sacrifice people,

Yes you fucking are, you’re willing to sacrifice 40,000 Palestinians and counting

Your choice isn’t between accelerationism or not, it’s how funny your buffoon in chief will be.
Considering the last 4 years of actual events, what makes you think your friends will be any safer under Biden than Trump? He hasn’t stopped any of the anti-trans legislation during his presidency, or anti-abortion, or anti-immigrant - who are you trying to protect? Who do you think you are protecting by voting 100% Hitler instead of 100% Hitler?

but Biden ain’t the one talking about declaring himself a dictator. Sure it’s 99 vs 100% Hitler, but there is no other option.

Did Trump ever seriously talk about “declaring himself a dictator”? When you are only given the choices between 99 and 100% Hitler you reject the system and actually utilize the mass discontent instead of voting for the “least bad bad guys” regardless, effectively guaranteeing whatever they do is acceptable as long as they do not become the other guys.

Biden ain’t the one talking about declaring himself a dictator.

This doesn’t mean anything unless your head is still filled with magical liberal thinking. Either he has the power and support to be in power indefinitely or he doesn’t. People who can and will do coups don’t usually care about how you vote.

There is another option lmao, it involves everything around a bourgeoisie democracy

And my morals say that when you have a bad choice and a worse choice, you don’t stand on pride and choose none just for the choice to be made for you.

And my moral tells me that if I don’t live in a small pool of like 6 states, there’s absolutely no point in thinking about, let alone voting for, who gets to be president. Not all of us live in Georgia or Michigan. And unless you live in one of those 6 states, congrats, you’ve wasted your time and energy on something you have absolutely no control over.

There is another option. The French knew that when their Kings and Queens told them to eat cake.

The fact you don’t even consider that is sus. Gaslightng even.

Why do you think people aren’t organizing

username was violentacrez, you can look it up if you want to pollute your mind

The fascist are always going to have been scary rhing that make liberals fascism more palletable and swallowable, even if its in someways worse than the big scary republican bs. Lets just fuck off that whole thing completely

And the democrat platform is to let Republicans install planks of Project 2025 while Democrats have the ball; so fuck that line of thought too lmao. You’re not cudgeling this out for your genocidal dixiecrat.

We do have , which are face mash-ups of every republican and democrat senator, iirc.

Trump doesn’t need to be combined with anyone to look like Biff

That’s why I advocate “undervoting”. Go vote, cast a ballot, but leave the spots with no good options blank. It shows that you aren’t a “lazy” voter, actually voted, and chose the hidden “none of the above” option.