Trump and co.: We are gonna do a coup
chapo.chat: I just don’t know how they’ll manage to do a coup.
Trump and co.: Coup starting…now.
chapo.chat: I’ll guess we see how it pans out
They can try but capital doesn’t want to rock the boat like that, it’s not profitable for them. If they try they’re going to eat big loads of horseshit.
The thing here I’ve been saying is that capital also doesn’t want to rock the boat by preventing it. The division in the country is such that if the trump base sees you stop him from doing this you’re setting up an inevitable civil war in years to come whereas if they just roll over and accept it then that’s not inevitable.
The only way they prevent this is with a military coup. I see more likelihood in them rolling over and accepting Trump than using force.
EDIT: On the other hand if you were ever looking for what Lenin called a “revolutionary moment” in which a state is weakened by splitting and a population is electrified… You should be paying really close attention to this.
I like the optimism of your edit but just don’t see that matching the material reality of America. And if it is a revolutionary moment, then the result might be more likely that you will see many accounts on this site never post again.
Did the last civil war hurt the economy? Might be dumb to compare, but others might do it anyways.
They can try but capital doesn’t want to rock the boat like that
someone made a thread these days making a point about how the american bourgeoisie is split in the haute bourgeoisie (“globalist”, tied to finance and big tech, represented by dems and neocons, currently more powerful) and the national/industrial bourgeoisie (more reactionary, nationalist), and i’m not sure the latter would have such a big issue with destabilization if they think they can get actually depose their superiors or whatever as a consequence of it
not that i’m hopeful either way, just saying it’s not an impossibility
I still think they’re just playing it up for their base. I don’t think the capitalist class would actually support this. Too destabilizing. Bad for investments.
Hope I’m wrong, though, and the AmeriKKKan empire is torn apart by civil war, freeing the rest of the world for a few years to liberate itself from us.
That’s true, but it will also devastate most other industries, which would be a net loss for most capitalists, and you can’t have literally every capitalist invested in just the MIC and, like, construction. It would be a huge net loss of profitability, which would be fine in another country, but not in the US because it would negatively impact most US capitalists to some degree, many to the point of losing all or most of the value of their investments.
They would only risk something like this in the event of a real crisis, like the looming threat of communist revolution in late Wiemar Germany and pre-fascist Italy.
