Comment by Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.net on I know we generally kind of reject electoralism here but how do yall see 2024 going?

Some of trumps recent remarks are keeping me up at night again. The Israel situation was keeping me up a l little bit ago and now it’s this dip shit again and his psychopath cronies

Great, so can you explain how any of those things materially help people continue to pay rent, healthcare, student loans (I can’t wait to hear how you think that the student debt relief somehow actually did anything material for student debt relief), buy groceries, etc? I’d love to hear you explain how that fancy list of hilariously named things actually accomplished anything.

Today’s announcement brings the total approved debt cancellation by the Biden-Harris Administration to nearly $132 billion for more than 3.6 million Americans.

Do you struggle with reading comprehension? Or did you just not actually read anything?

I don’t struggle with reading comprehension, no. In fact, I can read my student loan repayment plan, I can read the bill I still get every month, I can read the check I still have to send out every month, and I can see that the number hasn’t changed substantially during Biden’s term except for the payments I’ve made and am still making and will be making for decades to come. I’d send you a picture of the bill I get every month but it’s not written in crayon so it would probably be difficult for you

Same here. Say bye to $600/month, weeee

Ah, so because your personal, individual situation did not change, that means nothing of any value was accomplished for anyone.

The term for this is selfish.

Do you honestly think this moralistic browbeating is helping your case here?

No, I think that the original statement:

it’s the Dem’s fault as always because they have done absolutely positively nothing of value for any real person in America or the world at large

Is objectively false.

Highlighting the hypocrisy that other people reveal in themselves is just a bonus.

So what; you thought coming in here, soliciting uncited lines about student debt relief, and then calling into question people’s reading comprehension or altruism was a good way to convince people to vote for Democrats? or is this all just masturbation?

On the one hand we have polls of how people feel about the economy and on the other hand we have smug liberals lecturing us that if we think the fact nobody has any money is bad we just need to read this think piece.

Can’t wait to see how this goes for liberals this time.

I’m selfish? I’m not sure you understand what that word means. See, I’m not that worried about myself, but I also recongize that I’m not special. If my material conditions didn’t change with some insubstantial student loan relief, then it stands to reason that many others also saw no change in their material conditions. To me, this means the policy was ineffective; if it didn’t help the people it needed to help, then it wasn’t much good at all, was it? It would be selfish if I claimed that my material conditions improved and that I didn’t care about other’s, but I didn’t claim that. My issue with the “student loan relief” is that it didn’t relieve student loans for everyone. There’s nothing selfish about demanding enacted policy have a positive impact on everyone it sets out to help.

I would however say that it is QUITE selfish to defend a policy that helped you or that didn’t set out to help you to begin with, but didn’t help everyone else that it did set out to help. I’m sure you’re a rational enough human to understand that.

3.6 million Americans is 1% of the population lol

He helped 1% of the population out with an average of 35k loans with the BIG if of all the technicalities others have stated. Not even the most vulnerable either because these are the college educated

I was going to vote for Biden but now I won’t because you acted with such brutal incivility. This is the most important election of our lives; democracy itself is on the ballot and you are turning people away from the polls before they’ve even opened. You are handing Trump the keys to the White House; you are ushering in the dark tide of fascism. Enjoy the next election, you have made it our last.

Gonna go ahead and say the people who figured out $130 billion isn’t the same as 1.3 trillion aren’t the ones with the reading comprehension problem.

Also mandatory “liberals try to convince you to vote for Biden without directly insulting you challenge, impossible”

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