God help them. The slaughter to come is probably beyond our imagining

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On the one hand Jewish people absolutely needed their own country after the Holocaust

L take. the solution to anti-Semitism in Europe was not to steal land from the Palestinians and give it to the Jews. the solution was to kill the anti-Semites, but naturally the bourgeois states in the UKkk and amerikkka were never going to actually de-nazify europe

Death to America

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I’ve always wondered how to counter the annoying lib take of

Oh you hate Israel? That means you’re a Nazi anti Semite who wants to kill Jews

This really puts it into words what I need to say to reply to it. Thanks!

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You dorks dont realize that we need them there to have Jesus come back. Dont you want to bring the rapture? Dont you want Armageddon?

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Yeah nobody has killed more Jewish people than Europeans and it’s not even close.

In most models of justice, if someone has to suffer a loss to make the victim whole, the first choice for that someone is the perpetrator of the injustice.

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I don’t know what the solution is.

Mecklenburg Vorpommern.

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The choice of this area was a surprise to Komzet; the area had been chosen for military and economic reasons. This area was often infiltrated by China

General Pavel Sudoplatov writes about the government’s rationale behind picking the area in the Far East: “The establishment of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast in Birobidzhan in 1928 was ordered by Stalin only as an effort to strengthen the Far Eastern border region with an outpost, not as a favour to the Jews.” The area was constantly penetrated by Chinese and White Russian resistance groups, and the idea was to shield the territory

In the spring of 1928, 654 Jews arrived to settle in the area; however, by October 1928, 49.7% of them had left because of the severe conditions. In the summer of 1928, there were torrential rains that flooded the crops and an outbreak of anthrax that killed the cattle

Weird that it wasn’t more popular

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Keep in mind Sudoplatov is famously unreliable. Even western historians doubt his memoirs and the man was incredibly bitter, spending the rest of his life from being sacked after Beria fell slandering the USSR, taking credit for every success, and being very self serving. Wikipedia using a whole paragraph for his view uncritically is pathetic, particularly given his own wiki page stresses his untrustworthiness. He got reinstated during Glasnost and said this shit

The Soviet Union—to which I devoted every fiber of my being and for which I was willing to die; for which I averted my eyes from every brutality, finding justification in its transformation from a backward nation into a superpower; for which I spent long months on duty away from Emma and the children; whose mistakes cost me fifteen years of my life as a husband and father – was unwilling to admit its failure and take me back as a citizen. Only when there was no more Soviet Union, no more proud empire, was I reinstated and my name returned to its rightful place.

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On the one hand Jewish people absolutely needed their own country after the Holocaust.

Where? If the Zionist project had been carried out solely by anti-colonial leftist Jews without massive support from the US and European empires, where would they have gone? How would they have treated the people living there? As soon as you commit to a racially pure nation, you are committed to fascism. “Liberal Zionism” has always only been a fantasy.

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they should have carved up part of Germany and gave it to them, it’s the only thing that makes sense

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Exactly. Give them Bavaria or something.

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East Prussia/Kaliningrad

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If Germans were expelled and their country turned into a Jewish state, I would be history’s biggest Zionist.

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On the one hand Jewish people absolutely needed their own country after the Holocaust

I don’t know that I agree with this on its face, ethnostates are bad, full stop. If you’re committed to an ethnostate you’re ultimately committed to fascism to keep that ethnostate pure. And where do you draw the line, should every group the Nazis targeted get an ethnostate to themselves?

But if that is the decision we landed on, we should’ve given them like, Bavaria. Not a random location already inhabited by people unrelated to the Holocaust.

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Comrade I have some bad news for you about Utah history

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Uhhh I think Native Americans would have something to say about Europeans settling in Utah not being colonialism…

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Joseph Smith: that’s weird… I don’t hear anything at all

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Maybe I am an optimist but I feel like they might find kinship in a people who suffered a genocide at the hands of European powers

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