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All the china rhetoric started flying and then people started saying things like
“I’m as bleeding heart liberal leftist drum circle kumbyah as the next guy, but we should fireboard every Chinese person”
It’s the ratchet effect in full motion. They don’t believe in anything aside from beating republicans, so their rhetoric keeps moving to the right, because they think that the best strategy is to become a republican to beat them.
They don’t see political parties as tools to change the views of the population, they see them as brands that must market themselves within whatever the existing views are to “win” and THEN change the country after winning.
Socialists on the other hand do battle to change the views, opinions and culture of the population itself.
Oh yes. Subs like neolib especially, it’s all about being “electable” according to the voting population’s current whims, never about changing voters’ views. It’s all about being elected… to get elected. That’s why there’s support for people like Manchin in Blue MAGA spaces.
The China narrative has actually been really disrupted, in nearly every thread about Uighurs either the top or the second top comment will be calling out Adrien Zenz
This is good to remember. Reddit does suck and has sucked for a while, but a large part of the userbase is at least open to moving to the left of the Democratic Party. That’s how CTH got so big on there in the first place. You can pretty easily find left criticisms of Biden on /r/politics, too.
This place writing off the whole of reddit is like libs writing off red states.
I was in a thread of public housing in china and people were like “man, that would be so cool in america, why can’t we do that? … fuck china though”
Like, I’m an anarchist, but sometimes I can say good things about China without qualifying it. It’s like the word “fuck” is a little caboose following around China in their brains.
Like, okay, watch this: China preventing famine in the DPRK is good.
Did you see that? No qualifiers!