I swear to God we’re not all like that!

But yeah ketchup is dope

Yep, while it’s my impression that it’s at least on a downturn, you can still hear people using “Greenlandic” as basically a euphemism for alcoholism, drunkenness etc.

It’s a well known fact here in Denmark that Socialdemokraterne have not been remotely social-democratic since the 70’s. Even a few years ago when I was significantly more of a brainwashed lib, even I could see that they dropped the policy and kept the coat of paint

I don’t have the knowledge of theory to know if what you’re saying is true, but I do point out that I never said anything about “real” social democracy being desirable just that they aren’t even what they claim to be anymore. Because they used to - at least - build social housing and improve healthcare, and now they run-of-the-mill libs directly in bed with capital. If I understand you correctly, those goods should not be celebrated since they came at the cost of declawing the real labor movement. And, again, I’m not well-versed enough in the theory or history to know how true that is (their involvement, I mean, it’s obvious that the labor movement in DK has been killed), but it sounds about right.

But I still think there is a point, however sad, that they used to do things that helped workers short-term and now they don’t even do that - as you point out in your last paragraph.

Thanks for the perspective. Coming from a strongly socialdemokratisk family, I have heard the myth of how great they used to be so many times I probably internalized it.

Hell Germany has a similar reputation and yet SO many of their large businesses still use fax

Libs: “How dare you even suggest that!?”

I have a friend who is a Hungarian ex-pat, and he’s told me a lot about how the Órban regime operates, specifically its propaganda arm. It was quite embarrassing to realize that I’ve been doing the lib thing of only recognizing shady shit when someone else does it. Sitting there going “OMG, they control all the media so they can pretty much decide which topics are viable and which will never even enter public discourse?! That’s horrible!” and still being enough of a lib to think that our media was any better.

Can someone less stupid than me please explain why the fuck they would do any of that?

Unfortunately even some people who’ve spent the majority of their life studying philosophy still don’t get that there’s a difference between determinism and fatalism

No, no - usually they counter with “but those workers just did stupid manual work, HE did all the SMART brainwork/innovation”. Not that that is a good counter, even if it as true.