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They also regularly post braindead takes about China:
https://knockout.chat/thread/43449
If you have to resort to killing people and destroying their mental health to contain a virus that has vaccines and treatments that heavily reduce mortality at this point, it’s not worth it.
Typical shitlib assumption at display here that China bad.
Never have I seen any evidence for these claims, it’s simply a foregone conclusion, like it is with most Western liberals.
Yeah going to be honest I get the feeling that they (partially or heavily) used Covid as an excuse to increase government power and that they were always going to keep it permanent regardless of how covid actually played out.
“keep it permanent”
lol, lmao
Their “Zero-Covid” policy is just bullshit, how the hell can you fight a war against germs and win? I just checked their vaccination rate and it’s NINETY PERCENT. In my opinion, nothing more should be done other than keep encouraging people to take the vaccine. It just looks like a ridiculous display of power and evil.
Ah yes, as we all know, humanity has never successfully eradicated any disease. Trying to save people’s lives truly is a ridiculous display of power and evil.
China relaxes covid measures: https://knockout.chat/thread/44446
This was going to happen no matter what. CCP putting their fingers in their ears and claiming locking people in their homes was a necessary measure while these same people see other countries not doing it now was gonna stir the pot. Doesn’t help that they didn’t push vaccines and they been mostly spared from new variants.
Being spared from new variants is bad apparently. Also, Sinovac exists.
lol, lmao
Lockdowns work to some extent but it’s not a long term solution. They had no plan to do anything before reopening, they were just going ham on tracking and lockdowns until a miracle happens. If their policy really was “zero covid” they’d be installing air filters in public spaces, making vaccines mandatory, giving N95s to everyone and making them mandatory inside, making tests easily available and require negative tests to attend events, etc. None of these measures are silver bullets even with perfect implementation, the solution is doing all of those imperfectly, and not a single country is doing anything close that.
Ah yes, they had no plan. Tracking and locking down of course means you are clueless, unlike the very intelligent actions from the likes of Florida and Sweden, which was to do absolutely nothing and let it rip, baby, let it rip.
And of course, a country with cities that have had notorious quantities of smog in the past would never have air filters in public spaces . I mean, just how ridiculous is that? Have you ever seen a Chinese person wearing a mask? Come on now people, the Chinese are so backwards they don’t even know what masks are!!
This is your brain on Western propaganda.
China did try to push vaccines, but it’s the sinovac ones which time and time again has been proven to be not effective enough
Bullshit that is disproven with just a quick cursory Google search. The WHO recognized it as effective even – but of course, they believe the WHO is compromised by the evil Chinese and cannot be trusted, unlike the “respected” and “trustworthy” sources like the BBC or Bezo’s Washington Post.
The whole forum is full of bad takes like these (and I’ve wanted to dunk on them for a long time).
They simply cannot fathom that the very same capitalist Western governments, which they acknowledge have been trampling on their rights for decades, and which they acknowledge have left them poor and living paycheck to paycheck, are also lying to them about the West’s geopolitical rivals.
It’s a great example for how even socially progressive people can be utterly brainwashed by Western propaganda.
Yeah I’m sorry, I just wanted to highlight the ridiculousness.
I find it extra infuriating when even people of the most vulnerable groups, who would be the first to get murdered by Nazis, are brainwormed to the point they think downplaying Nazis is somehow the correct way to go.
You might be dirt poor and starving, but at least nobody will have the AUDACITY to refer to the collective group of people, which you may or may not be categorized into, with a heinous “the” determiner.
Honestly? Assuming the war will last into 2025 (which I believe is very likely given Russia’s attrition tactics), and assuming Trump doesn’t kick the bucket, then I think he’s guaranteed to win if he campaigns on this issue.
Trump has several advantages here:
- Trump’s base is already pro-Russia.
- By the time the elections roll around, more than 1.5 years away from now, American war fatigue will have increased massively. After all, the USA wasn’t even able to care strongly about Covid for more than 2 years – why should this be any different?
- A failure to bring victory to Ukraine in over 2 years will only reflect negatively on Biden. He’s constantly tripping over words and misspeaking as well. If he was seen as the senile old man in 2020, he’ll be seen as that even moreso in 2024.
- Trump can reasonably claim that he has experience in negotiating with world leaders. He managed to calm tensions with North Korea (for a while) and has talked to Putin in person, with photo evidence even.
- Biden, on the other hand, in terms of foreign policy, only really has a bungled pullout from Afghanistan to put to his name – apart from the current trajectory of the Ukraine war.
- By 2024, the US economy will likely already be neck-deep in a recession, which will inevitably be blamed on Biden. Under Trump, the economy was doing much better. Whether he was the reason for this or not, the optics for Trump are much better.
- Given that Ukraine is making Fascism cool again among libs, hardly anyone will give a fuck about January 6th.
- I don’t think people have realized yet how unelectable a campaign position of being “pro-nuclear war” will be. That’s exactly how Trump is going to spin Biden’s campaign.
- The blob might even want Trump to win it. He might be the best chance for the American state, and thus NATO as a whole, to pull out of the war., and reap the rewards of subjugating Germany, and Europe as a whole. Trump will act as the fall guy, the evil orange man who brought shame upon the country (just like in his first term), and America’s overall reputation is preserved. In short, libs will be able to claim that America was totally winning until the evil orange saboteur came to power.
Really the only obstacle will be DeSantis. Assuming Trump hasn’t totally lost his touch, he’ll easily defeat him though – after which the Republicans will inevitably line back up behind him, despite all misgivings.
Now that I wrote all this down – yeah, I’m convinced we’re looking at Trump 2024 here. Make America Tame Again.