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Feel free to report antisemitic comments, but antizionism isn’t antisemitism and acting like it is is antisemitic and will net you a ban starting once this comment is posted.

Reporting borderline stuff will not get you banned but as someone who had family at auschwitz I’m tired of blatant antisemitism in defense of a settler colonialist apartheid regime.

Hall of shame:

@ElMemerino@lemmy.world

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Mmm, there’s nuance there. It can be exploited to push antisemitism, but it isn’t inherently antisemitic.

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Also any expression of support for the Israel led genocide of Palestinians or any sort bigotry will not be tolerated as per Rule 3.

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Thank you.

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There’s a difference between antizionism and antisemitism. Just as there’s a difference between Israel and Jews.

Blame Israel, it’s anti Israel. Blame the Jews, it’s antisemitism.

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112 points

Down with the settler government

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let people live and come to some terms/ reality.

So I take you support a ceasefire and negotiations to end the Russia - Ukraine war?

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u mad, settler?

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Allow me to join you

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Agreed, we need for the Europeans and occupiers to go home.

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That’s what op was advocating for. Or did you forget that Israel is an apartheid state?

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tell that to the fascist government exterminating palestinians on their own land

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and come to some terms/ reality.

Imagine telling this to someone when France was under occupation by Germany

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What a moving, salient political take. Good thing “Just stop it and leave us alone😡🤬” is a belief that always survives against armed militant resistance

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With the establishment of a relationship of oppression, violence has already begun. Never in history has violence been initiated by the oppressed. How could they be the initiators, if they themselves are the result of violence? How could they be the sponsors of something objective whose objective inauguration called forth their existence as oppressed? There would be no oppressed had there been no prior of violence to establish their subjugation.

And it is clear that in the colonial countries the peasants alone are revolutionary, for they have nothing to lose and everything to gain. The starving peasant, outside the class system is the first among the exploited to discover that only violence pays. For him there is no compromise, no possible coming to terms; colonization and decolonization a simply a question of relative strength.

Get this into your head: if violence were only a thing of the future, if exploitation and oppression never existed on earth, perhaps displays of nonviolence might relieve the conflict. But if the entire regime, even your nonviolent thoughts, is governed by a thousand-year old oppression, your passiveness serves no other purpose but to put you on the side of the oppressors.

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Death to the settlers!

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“We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians … Choose peace rather than confrontation. Except in cases where we cannot get, where we cannot proceed, or we cannot move forward. Then if the only alternative is violence, we will use violence.”

  • Nelson Mandela

I guess the time has come where Palestinians cannot move forward, and have to use violence.

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“It is of no use for Israel to talk of peace, if they still hold onto the Arab territories of which they conquered.”

Want to guess who said this one?

The Palestinians have been pushed to breaking point by decades of apartheid. Obviously terrorist acts and killing civilans by any side is unjustifiable, but general Palestinian resistance against Israeli military targets and soldiers is self defence at this point. And let’s be very clear, you can’t steal Palestinian people’s homes, kick Palestinians out of their land, and joyfully watch Palestinians being bombed in an open air concentration camp , which Israeli settlers have been doing to Palestinians, and not expect a response in turn. You reap what you sow.

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The Palestinians are a sovereign people being genocided by an occupying armed force. What are they supposed to do? Just wait there patiently to be exterminated one by one?

This could easily be stopped by Israel just getting the fuck out of Palestinian land.

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Palestinians: got their land stolen by Israel

Israel: Surprised stealing people’s land makes them want to shoot you

SurprisedPikachu.png

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Yes, the land is stolen. Yes, resistance is legitimate. No, murder of civilians is not acceptable, no matter which side does it.

Would you really hold the same view if native Americans massacred American civilians in the US today?

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Yeah totally, words are a war crime. Get a grip you’re hysterical.

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Remember when Israel just mowed down peaceful protestors after Trump moved the American embassy to Jerusalem? That embassy hasn’t been moved back under a Democratic president, either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–2019_Gaza_border_protests

This is but one example, under a climate of constant incursion into Gaza and stealing ever more land. That’s what Israeli settlements are, after all. They claim land from Palestinians, force them out of their homes, then move in Israeli families.

Anything Hamas does is self-defense.

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i want to wake up to a world without Israel

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Not just without Israel but where every single colonizer is either doing hard labor to pay for their crimes, deported to Europe or dead

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You and Hams have something in common.

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so weird how the victims of a genocide would prefer the apartheid state to not exist

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Been seeing claims on social media (so of course be skeptical) of at least one destroyed Merkava tank, POWs taken from that tank, a Zionist Entity military barracks overwhelmed with loss of all occupiers inside, and Palestinian fighters in control of at least one illegal settlement.

May Palestine finally be free, from the river to the sea.

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The unit the barracks allegedly belonged to. If true it means some of those responsible for the killing of Ibrahim al-Nabulsi have been brought to justice.

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something tells me retaliation for this wont be pretty for them

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It won’t be, but nothing about being forced in an open air concentration camp is pretty

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i know, im from a colony too.

just makes me sad.

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The only path to victory is protracted guerilla war. Their best case scenario is fighting for a decade.

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There are videos of a Merkava destroyed by a drone-launched PG-7, photos of a second destroyed Merkava, and videos of MANPADS shooting down Israeli helicopters.

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I saw the footage of a drone dropping an explosive on a Merkava. Video cut out before the smoke cleared so who knows if the tank was knocked out? I know at least one Merkava was burned and IDF prisoners taken from it, so entirely possible.

The only video of Israeli helicopters I’ve seen are video game fakes a la Ukrainian cope from 2022.

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Israel existing involves the indiscriminate massacre of Palestinians. You only care when they fight back. Eat shit

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And it’s still happening, fully out of your reach. Cry like the bitch you are

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