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I don’t get it.

People wanted another Bethesda game.

They got what they wanted.

I said in 2008, after playing the first Fallout game by Bethesda instead of Black Isle: “Only Bethesda could manage to make a post apocalyptic prostitute boring.

They’ve always been boring, they’ve always had ugly character models, and the writing has always been bad. You get what you paid for. A Bethesda game.

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14 points

I think we were all expecting them to rebuild the engine sometime between fallout 4 and now instead of just duct tapping a flashlight (new lighting system) to it.

It’s such a bad engine the Phil Spencer came out and said every QA tester at Microsoft is working on Starfield:

https://www.gamesradar.com/every-qa-tester-at-microsoft-is-working-on-starfield-according-to-phil-spencer/

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8 points

is that because Microsoft doesn’t have QA anymore?

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1 point

The Creation Engine itself is just Gamebryo with a flashlight duct taped to it. IMO the engine is a huge part of what makes Bethesda games so fascinatingly unique.

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Well a lotta games are “in development”, doesn’t mean that they get developed in that time.

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43 points

Rule of thumb. Wait until your see top ten mod lists for Bethesda games and is at least on sale.

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I’m waiting for the Moddinglinked (Viva New Vegas and Midnight Ride) guide before I starts torrenting it

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2 points

i have gamepass unrelated to this game, i’m probably going to try it out if the dlss mod can be installed on the gamepass version (which looks like it can be). if the game sucks, i’m happy, nothing kills excitement better than actually experiencing the thing and getting disappointed, so i can finally evict this game from my head. and if the game doesn’t suck, i’m also happy because all these years later i finally get to play star citizen, i just apparently had to wait for bethesda to make it.

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27 points

Why are people pretending the game isn’t getting glowing reviews? Is the Bethesda hate circlejerk still going on?

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7 points

I like the game, but reviews are pretty unreliable these days. Cyberpunk 2077 also got a load of 8/9/10s on release and that game ran like shit and was full of bugs.

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this game is a negative -5/7 in my heart

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3 points

It didn’t come out on PS5.

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23 points

I somehow entirely missed the hype around this game and came across it again only accidentally on early release day when looking at some other sale on Steam. Been playing it and it seems fine to me in a vague Skyrim-in-space sort of way, which is all what I was expecting from a Bethesda RPG.

The world seems alive enough and there are plenty of side-quests and amusing / interesting things to discover. Now suddenly I have been coming across a bunch of posts everywhere where the game is supposed to be terrible or something. Still seems fine to me, but maybe I have lower standards after decades of gaming. shrug.

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6 points

Its fallout 4 in space.

But with a worse interface and a lot more menus that are annoying to navigate.

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5 points

Honestly this plus “Skyrim-in-space” make me feel pretty confident that this game is going to have staying power just because we know how good the modding community is for bethesda games. Skyrim was panned up front as genre generic fantasy with a pinch of viking magic but has been played continuously for a decade plus because it made for such a good blank slate to add onto. Also I guarantee every current UI issue already has modders working on it. Starfield script extender just dropped and the game hasn’t even officially been released

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4 points

Which really sucks, if you think about it.

Cause you and I both know the only thing that makes Bethesda games big sellers is the fact that anyone that buys them goes “Oh boy, I cant wait for the modders to make it actually interesting/fun/etc”

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3 points

Yeah the interface is awful.

On the other hand, I came across pirates boarding a freighter yesterday. I shot down the pirate ship and boarded the freighter. The gravity generator was malfunctioning so it would sometimes have gravity and sometimes be zero g. There were navigation puzzles, some of which could only be done in normal grav and some in zero-g.

None of the random side content in FO4 is anywhere near that interesting.

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2 points

You’ll be bored by that new radiant by the 10th time you do it.

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3 points

Some mods have attempted to fix the menus.

I’d like to see some complete UI overhauls at some point, but right now I’m using a mod that increases the refresh rate to 120hz from 30 in the menu’s

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3 points

that’s just console first UI design school Bethesda have subscribed to since Skyrim.

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2 points

I know, its heavily consolified, but its bad even for bethesda.

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Skyrim

arguably since Oblivion

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23 points

hmmm people seem to like this thing i don’t like

ah it’s because they’re actually lying for the purposes of fooling me, the objectively correct main character

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