I would be amazed if this actually came to fruition. It would paralyze the country yet again while they play party politics. That would be four PMs all from one election result. Four sets of resignation honours lists. yet another round of all change in ministerial positions. What would a new face actually achieve with so little time left in parliament time.

If this looked likely, I could see Sunak doing what Johnson threatened. That would be to call an early election. I firmly believe Sunak is in this for the money with the business interests of his family. If a VONC looked imminent then he has no interests in politics anymore. He knows he will not be the next PM. He will want a get out of jail free option, IMO.

According to polls, a GE would be a wipe out with the Tory party. If Labour step aside for the LD, there is even a possibility that Sunak would loose this own seat. He may not even have to go through the indignant process of resigning while in office.

I can easily see how there could be enough Tory MPs to trigger this. So many who have nothing to loose anymore. Many are stepping down as candidates, and many more who know they will be out of a job. I sincerely hope that if they do pull the trigger then Sunak sees the option of going to the ballot boxes. I can do without the last year of parliament being stagnated by yet more Tory in fighting.

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Is it some weird “buy one get four scheme” with prime ministers?

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It’s the ultimate form of democracy, everyone gets to be prime minister for a while.

Qualifications, or indeed basic skills, are not required.

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The Andy Warhol school of politics.

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It seems like they are not required but actively encouraged not to have

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Yay more stupid fucking infighting

Bring on the labour government already

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Given that labour are apparently already responsible for pretty much everything, we may as well have them in government, it seems more efficient.

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I have no idea what their endgame is here? Get BoJo back?

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There is far too much in fighting with the Tories to run with a consistent theme. Consequently they keep bouncing from one strategy to another in an effort to appease the factions within.

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The idiot fascist wing of the Torie party is starting to manifest itself.

Seriously they have people in their own political party who are major threats to their own continuing government. Only an idiot would tolerate this, fortunately everyone involved in this story is an idiot.

With luck the Tories will render themselves politically irrelevant.

It’s like watching Darth Vader cut his head off with his own lightsaber. You have to wonder what the hell they’re doing, but at the same time, you’re glad they’re doing it.

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Pessimistic maybe.

But as for what it might achive.

A PM/party leader. Willing to outright bribe the public into voting tory.

I can see some TORY leaders wanting a PM to get in and spend a bloody fortune on some extram cost of living promise.

If I was leader. And did not give a shit about anything but another 4 years of power

I’d use the current majority to raise the final cost of living payment early next year. And to increase the people who get it to low paid workers.

The start se huge worker giveaway policy that will not be passed until after the election.

To win the tories only need to gain about 10% 20 to win with a sizable majority based on polling.

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It is usually the Tory stunt to hand out cookies right before the GE. It is a tad late in the day to do this, and more so the latest school buildings crisis would see that as a total mockery regarding finances. Sunak really is tied down atm.

I am stunned that they have produced nothing to deflect the ever growing public dissatisfaction with them. Sunak either has very poor advisors, or he is simply not listening to them. It could also be he has created yet another echo chamber similar to Johnson’s, which means he is getting no real advice at all. Everything could just be nodding heads with whatever he says. De Botton’s reactionary resignation seems to indicate this could be true.

The Tories have so many avenues open to them for public appeasement and yet take none of them. Labour’s popularity rating will be the highest ever after the 100 days period because there is so many options for quick wins. You can see many Labour pundits giggling with glee when they talk about this. Some of the more sensible see this as a danger to democracy. Labour look set to have more power than the Tories have had and look at how that turned out.

It seems yet again, we have to wait with baited breath.

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As they are not forced to hold an election until 25th jan 2025. They have well over a year in power.

As they know they are likely to loose. I can see them calling soon after Xmas. Mid jan. And offering Xmas cookies.

Promise huge payouts to the NHS due to winter costs hitting. While the labour party are hesitant to promise tospend money. The tories offering short term payments may attract many traditional tory voters. Even though those same voters would question Labour for spending money. They tend to be very inconsistent whe the tories do it.

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If the Tories push for a spending spree, Labour will jump on it. They will need to show OBR forecasts. Remember they cannot avoid paying for the crumbling public buildings before any election next year. Where as Phil Moorhouse pointed out that Labour have an open goal and will just borrow, because it was unforeseen, as well as being critical to life. The Tories cannot get away with increasing borrowing in the same light as Labour, mainly because this is on their watch. Labour have been asking for clarification on the state of public buildings for some time now.

So no it is highly unlikely the Tories can hand out funding anywhere before plugging the public buildings maintenance gap that they have created.

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Standard reminder that letters of no confidence may as well not exist if the submitter is remaining anonymous. If they aren’t actively campaigning for Sunak to go then it’s highly unlikely that the threshold would be approached.

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According to David Maddox, several members within his party have submitted no-confidence votes in the PM, as appeals for fresh leadership ring out.

David Maddox being the political editor of the Express. This is a Tory paper, it is unlikely to post comments without substance that could damage the Tory party.

I personally find it unlikely that a VONC will take place, because it would be a death knell to any candidate with Conservative affiliation. But with this parliament, you can never say never. The level of incompetence in the Tories atm exceeds any normal limits.

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