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I’m not gonna lie: this whole thing is fucked when you think deeper about it.

The identity of the shooter doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things. Redmaga and bluemaga are each going to construct their own narrative and conspiracies about this event. Neither side will allow themselves to consider even a smidge of the opposing narrative. This is how deep the divide in this country is.

What is known for certain is that this will galvanize the right in the US and lead to more rightwing stochastic terrorism in the long run. Trump will win this election. If he doesn’t then several major riots might start across major US cities. Whoever is in charge of this news is going to make sure the least amount of information about that guy’s identity is available to the public.

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This. Before Trump’s ear stopped bleeding the republicans were already convinced it was a trans antfia supersoldier ridin’ with Biden. We even saw it last night with the liberals saying it was a false flag.

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Don’t these people know a trans antifa supersoldier wouldn’t have missed

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Yeah, I wouldn’t have missed

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it was a trans antfia supersoldier ridin’ with Biden.

Also Chinese because we gotta shove in some Asian hate

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The thing is when we fret about riots we always picture riots of the past when overall populations were lower, countries didn’t have too many deeply interlocked financial interests, and technology was less sophisticated. In a developed country of 300 million people to keep stable with an exceptionally high tech military, any major attempts at rioting will still end up a comparative whimper that soon gets either subdued by institutional forces focused on maintaining predictable markets above all, or have their rage diverted by content made by self-interested private org grifters.

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idk this is good news for team it was staged

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I revoke anything I said supporting that idea now that there’s more info, is clear now that we got more of a school shooter who dreamt big.

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sadly plausible

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Trump will win this election. If he doesn’t then several major riots might start across major US cities.

It won’t. Bourgeoisie interests dictate the will of the country. They’ll sacrifice their profits for an old sweaty guy for a little, but anything that eats into it for a long time will result in a crackdown.

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What is known for certain is that this will galvanize the right in the US and lead to more rightwing stochastic terrorism in the long run.

This is like saying 9/11 fundamentally made the US more openly racist which is both true and false depending on how far back you look and what is the standard you take it from.

The US is a country which already children are killed in classrooms, where adults already die from all consequences of poverty and where mass shootings in general are already common.

Point being, things which could be described as “terrorism” everywhere else in the world are already common and some(most?) of these are already on a trend upwards. So it may turn out to be a mistake to think this is some special moment that defined those trends.

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this guys name is out already. we will know everything about this person in time.

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This doesn’t matter tbh, he’s been galvanised and the base believes it was communists or something

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The smart thing Democrats won’t do now is only ever mention that the shooter was a Republican in unison on every media appearance and have their framing be that Trump’s rhetoric is so dangerous it’s even hurting him. Dems are too scared of doing things like this that actually work and would force the GOP to exhaust their resources trying to counter message on an issue unrelated to actual governing.

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Biden has already pulled his ads temporarily, and all the dems that had spent the past 8 years warning that Trump would be the second coming of Hitler who would hang minorities from lampposts are now wishing him a speedy recovery.

When the next debate starts Biden will probably kneel before him and beg for forgiveness for being too mean to him and inciting violence or whatever.

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Yep, it’s old people and people who live in a sheltered world where politics is eternally nice and civil, all the way down. They may consciously be aware Trump is a unique threat, but are fixedly averse to straying from the rulebook of playing nice.

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He was a registered Republican but he made a $15 donation to Turnout PAC via Act Blue. Ixve seen a lot of articles ig irr he was a registered Republican and focus on the massive $15 windfall he did to turnoutpac.

That said what is not said ANYWHERE is once you’ve given a single penny ANYWHERE that’s DNC Actblue connected - you get non stop text spams fear mongering how much of an existential threat Trump is to the existence of reality. What that does to an impressionable young man looking down a future knowing his life is going to be worse off in nearly every metric while constantly harassing them.

Litterally writing into law that these doom and stochastic terror moneybeg spams can not be blocked and exempt from the Do Not Call lists.

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The donation was on Biden’s inauguration day, and also came from a different zip code than the shooter. Even if it wasn’t a different guy with the same name, I think the speculation that it was a lost bet is a pretty good guess. He registered as a Republican less than a year later, and who donates on inauguration day?

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Yup, instead the Republicans will accuse Democrats of promoting violence by fear mongering about Trump and Project 2025. Democrats will of course do nothing to fight those accusations and instead just meekly agree to stop talking about fascism.

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Wait but i was told by libs on lemmy that we communists love Trump because we dunk on Biden.

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I have a feeling the fun is just about to begin and by fun of course I mean the terror

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We have no excuses? Uhhh 😅😂😭

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Fucking noob Rebublican can’t aim.

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NA aim fr

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Right wing in fighting starting up would be so funny

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