The election discourse has become cancerous because it keeps going in circles. This is because liberals have become fixated on the narrative of there being some large bloc of leftists who are going around trying to convince people to not vote. However, this contingent, does not actually exist? Most of the people I have seen take a stance against voting for Biden aren’t telling other people to not vote. Some are, but the number of these people is so vanishingly small (compared to the rest of the electorate) that it becomes clear that the election discourse is entirely a waste of time.

Liberals are also really trying hard to convince these people to vote (by berating them online), and it just seems like this is the most idiotic and time wasting strategy possible. These people have negative charisma.

Even if they actually could actually speak persuasively, wouldn’t it be far better to target the large number of non-voting centrists/apathetic people rather than leftists who have taken a principled stance (and thus could only be convinced if you knew more about American and world history, which liberals are blissfully unaware of)?

For as much as liberals are fond of accusing leftists of being impotents on a moral high horse, the election memers aren’t accomplishing anything either.

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They try to convince us because they know that we actually have convictions (unlike your average centrist) and they would like our convictions to be in their favor. It is a purely cold and detached decision to attempt (poorly) to recruit us to their cause as they recognize (on some level) that we actually will do things to advance the cause we believe in.

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In that discourse, I often try to address electoralism directly, and try to shake people out of their belief in the system itself and their belief that the Democratic party is actually interested in representing us. At this point I’ll often reuse my own past posts as copypasta:


The French & American Revolutions were bourgeois revolutions. The US Founding Fathers, who were wealthy land owners and chattel slave owners, intentionally constructed a bourgeois democracy, which was never meant to represent the working class, and it never has, despite later allowing non-landowners, women, and non-whites (those not re-disenfranchised by the carceral system, anyway) to vote.

[Princeton] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

The Separation of Powers is BROKEN, Here’s Why


Edit to add: I should sprinkle more labor militancy into these copypastas, thus giving people alternatives to work toward.

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I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

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Vote with your money (unironically)

Note: The above advice doesn’t apply if you’re not a billionaire.

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Honestly the reaction they’ve had to the debate just proved to me that Biden could literally kick a dog live on TV and they’d still vote for him.

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“Well yes, kicking dogs is bad. But imagine all the horrible things Trump would do to dogs if he got elected. This is far too important a cause if you care about animal rights!”

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Liberals are also really trying hard to convince these people to vote (by berating them online), and it just seems like this is the most idiotic and time wasting strategy possible. These people have negative charisma.

: These fools are wrong, so so wrong. Set them back on the proper path before it is too late.

[suggestion easy: critical failure]: You just tell them how stupid you think they are, surely showing them how much better than them you are will make them want to think like you.

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