Because the implication here is that she thinks having sex with black men is more degrading/humiliating and getting beat up by them is like, more “savage” or something than other races

My liberal friends all disagree with me and thinks I’m kinkshaming, being racist myself, or invalidating her “preferences” or something (which I think is usually also racist, having racial preferences unless there’s some shared culture/experiences)

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That sounds like a race chaser

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Whaaaaaaat the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that’s not a fuckin preference, that’s abhorrent racism dressed up as kink.

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it’s completely normal to act out your turner diaries fanfiction

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If she just liked to be gangbanged and beaten up, that would be a kink, but making it a racial thing is definitely racism. Pretty sure even if it was a black woman the most it would be is internalised racism.

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Its a kink, which means its a fetish, which means stripping the other participants humanity and converting them into fetish objects. Denying the humanity of others based on race is racism.

This creates an interesting dynamic since the stated desire of the hypothetical woman is to be brutally dominated by these men, however by stripping them of their humanity she is assuming the role of the sadist, consuming their humanity in order to “own” them, and they, by having their humanity stripped from them, are assuming the role of the masochists. These definitions of sadism and masochism are based on the work of psychologist and Marxist-Humanist Erich Fromm, so they aren’t the colloquial definitions your lib friends may be familiar with, but Fromm’s definitions are common in discussions of humanism and dehumanization.

Even if she states that her desire is to be “dominated” in this way, it is impossible. There’s nothing wrong with using fantasy to work through internalized contradictions like this. Fantasies are often deeply contradictory, our drive to resolve these contradictions is what I believe causes sexual pathology to crystalize around them.

But this woman will never have her fantasies fulfilled, and will instead seek more brutalization by more participants, believing she hasn’t experienced enough of her fantasy. In reality, through her actions she is sexualizing the objectification/dehumanization of others. Her desires are sadistic, not masochistic, and she will never experience relief or connectedness with herself or others while pursuing them. She needs therapy, not a gangbang.

Since she can’t articulate the true nature of her fantasy, then her partners can’t consent and will probably undergo trauma for engaging. In fact they’ll probably be expected to provide after care.

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