Have seen so many otherwise tame people go mask off fash because you can’t argue with logic (never mind the root cause of the logic in question)

I am seriously fucking terrified. I think philosophy might be dead thanks to pompous tech bros

I know a guy who I had to stop discussing politics with because he started doing the destiny debate streamer thing of pulling up wikipedia articles so he could “debate” me on subjects he knows nothing about. He also called it “doing quick non-biased research”.

He’s in his thirties.

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Ew. I hate people who believe that wikipedia is the fountain of truth.

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I love this webzone

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Wikipedia can be useful but only really if you’re already tuned to interpreting the biases in the information given.

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Wiki is best when it’s something too old for capitalists to give a shit. Like yes Wikipedia tell me more about bronze cauldron construction in ancient China. You still have to check the sources but it’s usually okay. The pages on things like language migration are usually okay too.

In a darker way way it’s really good on any topic the left and right largely agree on.

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non-biased

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I have a coworker who thinks was in charge of China during the Tiananman square protests. He did not believe me when i told him Mao had been dead for 13 years at that point. Just had to walk away.

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Can’t be biased when you dont know the ideological splits of the topic.

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And 99 times out of 100, the “logic” in question doesn’t hold up to even the barest scrutiny. What the speaker claims is a direct line from A to B is in fact a line from A to Z, with all the letters B-Y being filled in with the speaker’s own unsupported and often not explicitly stated prejudices and misconceptions.

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Some worthless tech bro on tik tok did a major because logic says everyone talking about wealth inequality is just a triggered and jealous leftist and things haven’t changed nearly as much as people are saying

I bet the ruling class is thrilled to have so many fucking useful idiots

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I was talking to a friend yesterday who is a Biden liberal. Actually, it doesn’t matter who you stick in there, he will support them. He grew up well off and has a nice job now.

Anyway, he brought up politics and it came around to “we need to get out the for Biden but young people don’t vote”. So I brought up how hard it is to vote when you work weird hours, don’t have transportation and have to stand in line for hours to do so. He agreed, but defaulted to “republicans make it so hard to vote”. I didn’t have the heart to press him on why democrats aren’t making it easier when they are in power. To be fair though, our state did, and is doing a lot of good with our lib leadership.

Anyway, his privilege glasses blinded him from all of the B-Y steps of why voting isn’t as simple as A-B. I’ve been trying to crack his privilege dome for our entire friendship. I get through once in a while, but he’s in too high of a tax bracket to ever know what real hardship is like.

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He’s a good friend of mine, and I usually just try to steer away from politics with him. He’s just not engaged enough to see a big picture, and resorts to dumb shit like “we gotta reign in the deficit” or some other nebulous thing that won’t improve people’s material conditions. If I can, I remind him that the key to all of this is improving material conditions.

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Garbage in, garbage out, I work in a heavily data driven field and I see it every day. But they don’t care where the data comes from or its integrity as long as it agrees with their preconceptions

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Legit feel like I could get in a fight with someone over this. It truly feels like creation with extra steps

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Well, according to my research on Wikipedia, tech workers make up only 1% of the population, yet cause most of the stupid bullshit I have to see on the internet. Data doesn’t lie, it’s just a fact!

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