The people who called us conspiracy theorists and Putin lovers for saying all along that it wasn’t Russia will never apologize or acknowledge their mistake, and they’ll swallow the next obvious lie without a moment’s hesitation.
Kind of weird question maybe, I’m up unreasonably late, but is there a term for the thought process that leads someone to a probably true conclusion (such as the US, Norway, and Ukraine collaborated on the nordstream demolition) due to inference/pattern recognition/intuition, without undeniable evidence?
You might call it a kind of abduction (as opposed to induction or deduction), which is inference to the best explanation.
They’re just going to pretend that they never claimed it was Russia in the first place.
They swallow the consent manufacturing whole and call conspiracy theorist anyone who doesn’t, then it’s reveled that it was all lies just like the “conspiracy theorists” said and they “acknowledge” that they’ve been bamboozled (without acknowledging that the peoples who told them they were were right) and swear that they won’t fall for it again, then they fall for it again.
The United States did this, full stop. If Ukraine did it then the EU is fully naked and unprotected.
Yeah this is just setting up Ukraine as the fall guy. I still think it was really the US and Norway, like Seymour Hersch said it was: https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream
Genuinely, if this was Ukraine then the EU coast is completely naked and anyone with a boat can fuck their infrastructure up. You can tell the EU knows this story is bullshit because they’re not doing huge investigations into security. Libs still buy it though.
If the state department told liberals that a unicorn blew up the pipeline, they would believe it
i showed my lib coworker this and they fr did the “concerning, looking into it” meme like
i showed my lib coworker this
how do you have the patience? I gave up on this years ago. it always ends with me “looking crazy”
To stop telling the truth for fear of looking crazy, this is a nineteenth type of liberalism.
Frankly I wish i’d been more public and out of pocket with my predictions these last couple years, because I stood to gain a lot of cred when they all came true.
boredom at work, i just whip my phone out and go “bro check this out” and show him
I had such moment rained on me once, my coworker suddenly said to me “Did you hear? Trujillo is dead”
I was like: “Is that news? he’s dead for like 60 years already”
He: “Wait, who?”
Me: “Rafael Trujillo, dictator of Dominicana”
He: “Who? I mean Robert Trujillo of Metallica”
Me: “Who?”
Also turned out he’s still alive. Robert that is, Rafael is thankfully still dead.
I don’t believe this story. I think it’s a limited hangout to cover up the real details of the destruction by US and Norwegians, reported by Seymour Hersh
That narrative never made any sense, anyways. Like, how did even the most credulous westerner explain that to themselves?
Ze evil Ruzzian orcs, incapable of logic due to their inferior brainpan: “ah, yes, I shall bomb my own pipeline to force the effeminate Europeans to buy oil and gas from the US, this is sure to lead me to victory.”
Like, what’s the framing there? That Russia blew up its own pipeline to get people to be mad at Ukraine for cutting off their energy supply somehow? And then the only spin at all was that they just had a single journalist who nobody knows by name and hasn’t been relevant for 20 years post about it on a website nobody’s heard of behind a paywall?
Mark Ames logic: I am very smart, I tell you Putin will never invade Ukraine -> but… Putin invaded Ukraine!! -> Since I am very smart, Putin must be stupid to invade Ukraine -> since Putin is stupid, he is probably stupid enough to blow up his own pipeline
It took Seymour Hersh to get on RWN for him to shut up about this completely stupid argument of his.
Ze evil Ruzzian orcs, incapable of logic due to their inferior brainpan: “ah, yes, I shall bomb my own pipeline to force the effeminate Europeans to buy oil and gas from the US, this is sure to lead me to victory.”
I can hear Yugopnik doing his ‘ze evil Russian orc’ voice in this whole sentence.
Maybe it’s that Putler decided to teach Germany/the EU a lesson by blowing up their own … Idk . It’s so dumb to even think about, I can feel my braincells dying in real time. NATO so obviously did it, I can hardly imagine the level of delusional propaganda brain needed to believe otherwise.
