Usually in relation to Uighur camps, the argument is “since you’re in America you can’t change whether they’re concentration camps or education facilities, so you should just concentrate on the concentration camps within your own borders instead.”
Like, motherfucker, I can have an opinion on the actions in another country and still work on changing things I can change.
I guess my question is, is this concentrate on what you can change part of some theory or strategy I haven’t read or is it just bad and lazy?
In particular for China it’s essentially conceding to the people who thinks there are millions of Uighurs being murdered, rather than attempt to engage and show that there is no evidence of that, and just what abouting.
I think you may have misunderstood my position, and also I know I did a bad job wording my stupid ass question at the top. It isn’t about Xinjiang, it’s about countering misinformation, or just ignoring it.
What I don’t agree with, and something I’ve seen a lot of here and in other places recently (and of course I can’t find an example of now), is people not bothering to provide a counter argument to the State department propaganda of Uighur camps, but just saying “umm actually we can’t change anything there so let’s not talk about it. You Americans should focus on your concentration camps instead.”
Which I find a weird take, and probably an op.
Ah I see. I’m honestly sorry, for attacking you. I agree, that some of the “lets not talk about it” is propaply an op. I know it sounds stupid that a state department would create bots or spam forums but what happened online, when the GME stock went over 100 the first time, was just crazy. There were like half a million new accounts on reddit and twitter with an _ in the user-name. When hedge funds do it, the government can. Plus, everthing they accuse China of has turned out to be projection. I think, we (as leftist) should not step back but step forwards and do what we can to debunk imperialist propaganda. The thing is, there is almost no winning possible. People don’t accept that they have been exposed to propaganda all their lifes. Nobody is willing to admin that everthing ones oppinions were based on were lies. I mean, it was the same for me. I had to learn that I have been lied to, mostly from comrades providing good information. Now, that I’m sorta aware of what’s going on, it’s easy to see. We have to be vocal about their lies and we have to educate people.
No worries, my question was kind of rambling about Xinjiang and I wasnt careful with my wording.
But, I do feel that there was se good discussion here. I think the correct response is not disengage, but ensure that critique is done from a specific anti-imperialist perspective without speculating on the motivations of the local people or nation. That is, we can and should critique America’s actions on the area as a go to rebuttal. And also point out direct false information.