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ok gang I’m thinking of leading a wretched of the earth book club in January and after that we do a trinity of fundamentals thoughts?

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Can people be more specific about the situations on this site they’re vaguing about 😭

I’m always confused when I log back on

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Fucking same! I thought it was just me.

This stuff makes Marx rambling about linen, in comparison, so clear. I’m here reading comments like

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My bad, this is the exchange I was vagueposting about.

I mean I’m very open to being wrong about stuff, but uhhh… I don’t get it. Z Poster took some kind of victory lap about how my heuristic fell flat on it’s face, but I really wasn’t following by that point, so I disengaged. The hexbears all seem big brained enough to get it though judging from the votes, but nobody elae cared to elaborate.

Maybe my comment got seen as “syrian people should be so happy to be liberated by good guys HTS”, but that feels like a stretch to me to interpret it that way idk

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Thank you for the context, comrade

My comment wasn’t solely directed at you, you are definitely not the only person that does that

Edit: oh my god i meant to say youre not the only person

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You and frauddog stumbled into the middle of a vague posting thread about a specific current we had noticed in the news thread of people who were being pro-HTS and celebrating the fall of Assad.

That is the context. So frauddog essentially came in blasting all the white anti-imperialists and scolding them for not listening to comprador Arab shitlibs who don’t understand that the death of Syria is the death of Palestine and the axis of resistance. I have family and friends, all Arabs, who celebrated Assad’s fall because they are incoherent and kind of stupid libs. I don’t think principled communists who spend all day analyzing news with a Marxist analysis should cede even an inch to these people.

I’m the one being de-colonial hardliner here, yet you misinterpreted the context and claim I’m a white supremacist or whatever the fuck because I put compradors on blast.

I never once said “not all white people” I think I was quite clear I don’t give a fuck about defending white people. I was pointing out how colonizers launder their views through token compradors and that we can’t necessarily trust someone just because they aren’t white. Look at the fucking Palestinian Authority and the kingdom of Jordan, look at those craven self-hating cucks and tell me we should respect “subjects of empire” automatically without scrutiny.

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That is the context.

Like I said in the news mega, I interpreted the comment as an offhanded quip akin to “omfg that’s so relatable” to an experience that is genuinely very relatable (at least to me). So I think interpreting it as

frauddog essentially came in blasting all the white anti-imperialists and scolding them for not listening to comprador Arab shitlibs who don’t understand that the death of Syria is the death of Palestine and the axis of resistance

is going a bit far. Especially on a website where people are commonly shut down and ridiculed for existing-as-poc. If you wanted to go in on that line of thinking, you could have started a couple of comments up the chain (which was all about this same topic and much more explicitly so), instead of going for the comment that might make the majority white anglo userbase even just consider for a second their own systemic role in the lives of poc. That’s my opinion.

But I do see where you’re coming from better now, so I appreciate your reply. God knows I can relate to being surrounded by family chuds.

Free Palestine, from the river to the sea and death to america.

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Honestly, I’m over that one. Just another not-like-us tryna browbeat us into accepting tacit white supremacy as the law of the world; that’s the exact kind of mf my blocklist made for.

Next I’m finna have to hear crackers and foreign mfs who don’t even live here and know nothing of our culture talm bout ‘Black liberation and nationalism is “inherently reactionary” and “counterrevolutionary”’(in a country that has no real left) (don’t laugh!) if we’re not willing to fight for the same mfs enslaving us two hundred years ago

EDIT: Also, if someone can point out to me where “I’m pretty sure every single one of us has a story about getting talked over by a cracker” cosigns Al Qaeda zionists, I’d love to see it; 'cause mfs stay talkin out the sides of their necks apparently. It went from “I’m pretty sure every single one of us has a story about getting talked over by a cracker” (a neutral, all-around perennial, ‘every single melanated subject-of-empire has a story LIKE this’ statement), to “wElL sOmE oF tHoSe “cRaCkErS” aRe CoMmUnIsTs” at which point I say “y’know what, I’m not doing this, fuck off.” At which point it was failed to fuck off so uhm.

The fuck? How does “some of those crackers are actually communists” not come off as going to bat for klan-assed mfs? And why do these crackers and coons from the news mega get to totally disregard disengagement from the thread?

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I know someone was just making fun of this kind of response in this same thread lol, but your edit makes me feel less like I’m going mad. As for the disengagement, I guess it was only applied to your posts specifically.

I think I just got blackpilled on “em_poc and mutual_aid are the only useable part of the site”, but I probably won’t stop despair posting on the disabled mega at least

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It’s always something along the lines of ‘Man, that obscure racist post someone made is really making me question my sanity’

And the post in question is just mildly insulting white women.

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What i genuinely don’t understand is why they aren’t saying the user or describing the post without @ing someone

I got youre not allowed to restart struggle sessions but if youre vaguing, youre still mentioning the struggle session

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yeah but the em poc com serves as a place to vent about such things without being harassed by crackers.

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