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Apparently, you invade with ineptitude that would be hilarious if not for the bloodshed, embarrass yourself on the world stage, commit a whole bunch of war crimes, and drive several of your neighbors into the arms of this enemy. It’s not what I’d do, but Putin seemed to think it was the move to make.

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Apparently, you invade with ineptitude that would be hilarious if not for the bloodshed, embarrass yourself on the world stage, commit a whole bunch of war crimes, and drive several of your neighbors into the arms of this enemy

I’m sorry, I thought that you weren’t this delusional about Afghanistan somehow fitting the description I provided. No, kid, Afghanistan didn’t expand to any US border, and is not the word’s most prolific aggressor that killed millions of people during its second invasion of Iraq alone.

In any case, I’m going to note that you did refuse to give an answer to the question, are fine with committing war crimes (in particular, with Ukraine using cluster bombs on its own populated areas), and you seem to think that Sweden and Finland weren’t already de facto NATO states, despite their prior participation in NATO atrocities.

It’s not what I’d do

Well, we are still waiting for you to tell us what you would do. After all, you seem to think that you are qualified to tell the rest of the world how it should resist you and how it should react to your aggression.

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I’m sorry, I thought that you weren’t this delusional about Afghanistan somehow fitting the description I provided. No, kid, Afghanistan didn’t expand to any US border, and is not the word’s most prolific aggressor that killed millions of people during its second invasion of Iraq alone.

I’m sorry, I thought you understood we were talking about Ukraine, so I interpreted your comment through that lens. I’ve heard claims that the 2014 was western-backed, though I’ve never seen anyone attempt to substantiate that claim, so I assumed that was what you meant. You know, because it’s relevant to the discussion at hand, unlike Afghanistan.

Well, we are still waiting for you to tell us what you would do. After all, you seem to think that you are qualified to tell the rest of the world how it should resist you and how it should react to your aggression.

Go ahead and quote the part where I said anything about how they should or shouldn’t resist. I never did, nor was that the topic at hand. Attempting to force me to answer it is nothing but an attempt at grandstanding.

The discussion at hand, since you seem to be struggling to grasp that, was whether or not Russia was trying to prevent war in Ukraine. Ukraine being the country they invaded. Voluntarily. Arguably for imperialist reasons. Unless, of course, you think it’s pure coincidence that Russia would stand to gain ports, natural gas (or is it oil? I think natural gas), and a ton of food production.

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I’m sorry, I thought you understood we were talking about Ukraine

We were, but you decided to talk about your embarrassment and atrocities in Afghanistan, for some reason.

I’ve heard claims that the 2014 was western-backed, though I’ve never seen anyone attempt to substantiate that claim

The Nuland-Pyatt correspondence where they discussed whom to put on the throne in Ukraine instead of the then-current leader were leaked in early February of 2014, before the coup. She also bragged about how much the US spent on influencing the Ukrainian government. And, of course, the leaders of the coup were politicians - it was not a grassroots movement.

Go ahead and quote the part where I said anything about how they should or shouldn’t resist

You keep talking about how Russia is bad for resisting you, for example.

I never did, nor was that the topic at hand

It’s literally the topic at hand. You started it by talking about how Russia shouldn’t have resisted your aggression the way Russia did.

Attempting to force me to answer it is nothing but an attempt at grandstanding

Cool. So, what you said is that Russia responded correctly to your aggression. Good to know that you will now delete your cold comments now that you realise that you were in the wrong.

The discussion at hand, since you seem to be struggling to grasp that, was whether or not Russia was trying to prevent war in Ukraine

War with NATO more generally.

And yeah, Russia did try to resolve it otherwise. Russia did not just do an overt full-scale invasion in 2014.

Ukraine being the country they invaded

After NATO did a coup in Ukraine and set up a puppet government there that was attempting to bring NATO’s weapons to the Russian border.

Voluntarily

Cool. So what would you do? Let the most prolific aggressor in the world harass and attack you? Lol.

Notably, you are fine with voluntarily invading Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Vietnam, Korea, committing genocides, including the one in the occupied Palestine, known torture sites, coups, etc.

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