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I honestly don’t think legalising is the best path looking at SF, California reporting after harm reduction campaign. Maybe empathetic rehabilitation.

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empathetic rehabilitation.

From what? Pot addiction? Lmao?

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Yes. While cannabis is unproblematic to most users, some cannabis users experience substance abuse disorders that are hurting their health and social relations. They should receive qualified and empathetic care, not condemnation and criminalisation.

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Yeah, you’re right, sorry. They’re acting like legalizing pot is done purely to feed addiction and that “empathetic rehabilitation” of those addicted is an alternative to legalization/will make legalization unnecessary, so I still disagree with their original comment, but I shouldn’t have so flippantly dismissed the concept of addiction.

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If you have underlying issues with anxiety and paranoia, adding marijuana to the mix exacerbates these issues greatly and becomes a poor crutch for dealing with them. I’ve seen friends and family who smoked 2-3x weekly for a few years develop eyebrow-raising mental problems. So I tend to agree.

Personal anecdote, N=4.

(Yeah of course, alcohol is just as bad, or worse in extreme cases, but people can usually sense the damage being done to them by it afterwards. Pot’s effects are internal. It’s hard to reflect until it’s too late.)

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So legalize it and put effort into treating addictions and mental illnesses. This isn’t very hard.

Yeah of course, alcohol is just as bad, or worse in extreme cases

Most if not all cases. Cannabis is objectively less dangerous in practically every way.

Pot’s effects are internal

And alcohol’s effects aren’t?

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So legalize it and put money into treating addictions and mental illnesses. This isn’t very hard.

Of course. But look around you. Our governments won’t do that, and no political party that could make it to power is pushing a platform like that. I’m more than happy to make kids playgrounds out of concrete if I knew that bandages were free.

Most if not all cases. Cannabis is objectively less dangerous in practically every way.

I agree. But it’s not like Alcohol usage will go down once Cannabis is legalized. If anything, people will use them together in a vicious cycle. Throwing baseball bats into a dangerous hockey arena is never a good idea, even if the bats are made of foam.

And alcohol’s effects aren’t?

Alcohol’s effects are immediately visible. It’s hard to be an alcoholic and still look at yourself in the mirror happily the next morning. Weed has no such negative phenotype, if anything you will look happier the next morning for abusing it.

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So, alcohol is (mostly) illegal in Bangladesh and we have the lowest rate of consumption at about 0.00 L per person/year

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Buddy the other option here is not them managing to deal with it, psych health care in germany is abysmally absent, it’s becoming alcoholics

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The thing is, they already are. Excessive drinking at a friends house is so normalized here, it’s become background. The police might pull you over if you’re swerving all over the road on the way back home, but usually they wont. Adding weed to that mix of “normal” background behaviours is going to improve that? I don’t think so.

And I’m not saying prohibit all vices. People need their release - of course they do - but rather than encourage new addictions behind closed doors, can’t we just make it easier for people to hang out in public at night?

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