I could go on and on about Adrian Zenz, his terrible methodologies; about terrorist groups trained by Isis and utilized by American for creating unrest in Xinjiang; stats about real population numbers in Xinjiang; about differences between American and Chinese anti-terror efforts regarding radical islamic terror groups; about infrastructure building in the area, investment by China; about the number of mosques per capita; about the preservation of regional identity that Xi is working towards; etc. Etc.
But, regardless, just saying that I don’t believe that there is religious persecution in Xinjiang means, in their eyes, that I don’t care about our Muslim brothers and sisters.
It’s similar to talking about Hong Kong.
Libs use these places as tools to spread liberalism, so caring about the actual policies, people, and reality is a disadvantage to conversation.
How can I approach these subjects?
so after they kill people? or is them posting 1488 with nazi symbols a bunch online proof?
because we’re currently doing the “only lock up nazis that kill people” thing and it has done nothing to deter their attacks.
also don’t strawman. I clearly said white nationalists not all white people… And I clearly said white nayionalists that posted extemist content online.
so after they kill people? or is them posting 1488 with nazi symbols a bunch online proof?
The latter.
also don’t strawman. I clearly said white nationalists not all white people… And I clearly said white nayionalists that posted extemist content online.
But what’s happening in China is not equivalent to that. Folks are being locked up for “suspicion” of being radicalized. There’s no justification for that kind of discrimination.
But I still think y’all are looking at this all wrong. Xinjiang being a hotbed of terrorist activity is based in the material world, and improving the material conditions of the people there is what will have the biggest positive effect in the region. I really wish we could come up with a system that could help improve their material conditions. Have you ever heard of such a thing?
if we give nazis healthcare theyre still gonna be nazis, though. the ideology runs deep.
But back to your other point. If someone posts “1488” online and is detained for it, is that really any different on the outside than detaining people who are suspected to be terrorists? Isnt that literally the exact same thing? How is one okay but the other isn’t?
Please help me understand where the line is here.
To be clear, I don’t want to imprison anyone. Prisons shouldn’t exist.
I’m not going to get into the weeds about when the right moment is to detain potential terrorists. For starters, I’m wholly unqualified to answer that question; but more to the point, it’s a distraction. Instead, I’d love to focus on this part of my comment:
But I still think y’all are looking at this all wrong. Xinjiang being a hotbed of terrorist activity is based in the material world, and improving the material conditions of the people there is what will have the biggest positive effect in the region. I really wish we could come up with a system that could help improve their material conditions. Have you ever heard of such a thing?
So, do you have any ideas?
