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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Please add to this if you can.
Links
Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine
Leftist discussion threads:
https://hexbear.net/post/177324
https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/
Twitter military updaters:
https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary
https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet
https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike
https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael
https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518
Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413
Better war/propaganda analysis:
https://www.understandingwar.org
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
News updates:
https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html
Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html
YT/Video in Ukraine:
Thank you.
Previous megathreads:
Someone help me back away from this ledge, I’m starting to feel like I should make excuses for Russia. But what they fuck where they supposed to do? Ukraine was poised to join NATO and put nukes right on their doorstep. Russian separatists who wanted self-determination where being horrifically killed in Donbass. The Ukrainian government is in bed with neo-fascists and everyone in Russia pretty much hates Nazis. Maybe Putin should have only have recognized and defended those breakaway republics and not gone as far as he did into toppling Kiev. :stalin-stressed: Dunno what to think here.
So what’s the deal, is it accurate to say the EU is subordinate to the US or not?
you can do what leftists are supposed to do when 2 imperial powers fight. not side with either of them, but with the working class of both countries being sent to die for capital
I’m still wondering if there was anything else Russia could have done in the face of NATO doing it’s bullshit though?
this is the question eating me alive right now as well
cos it seems like nato were offering not even the slightest hint of a path to de-escalation, and short of putin moving his troops from the border and taking a massive L and further emboldening nato (while also probably getting sanctioned and having all sorts of ukraine fuckery anyway), im not sure what his path was to get things down from the incredible cliff that nato had put them on in the last month or so
like could he have taken the economic hit and turned off the gas tap to europe to try and bring them to the table or something? i dont know enough about this shit to know if thats even realistic
sanction ukraine, build couple of nukes targeted at ukraine:shrug-outta-hecks:
Someone give the memo to DPRK, Venezuela, Cuba, China and every other AES area of the world
I don’t agree with them in principle on it, but unfortunately they’re states that have to play the game of geopolitics. me and you are not, nor are most of us in states that need to be doing so
No need to make excuses for Russia. You can condemn the aggression while still understanding why it was a rational move based on the actions of others. The Russian government drew a very clear red line that Ukraine was to not be admitted to NATO. Russia’s existing fears were likely stoked by the Banderite government in Kiev given its Russophobia, Islamophobia (remember Russia is like 10% Muslim) and glorification of Nazi collaborators like Stepan Bandera. There’s a very real concern if an aggressive nation right on your borders, that promotes ethnic hatred, joins NATO, you’re fucked if those Nazis get any ideas.
The US and other western leaders as well as NATO leadership pretty much stonewalled every attempt at diplomacy Russia made in the weeks before the war to address these concerns. This would not have happened if NATO would have agreed to Ukrainian neutrality. Russia is to blame for their aggression, but looking at the situation in full, their motivations are pretty clear and at least understandable. It’s certainly more understandable than the US’s motivation for invading Afghanistan - the Taliban was willing to prosecute al-Qaeda/bin Laden without a fight -let alone Iraq, and no one sanctioned the Bush regime or tried to isolate America from the world economy.
