Just read the fucking papers. They’re not complicated,

They are intentionally complicated. I’ve read dozens of articles on the subject that just cyclically reference eachother with zero primary sources

find the evidence backing up the claims they’re making and figure out how it poorly supports the claims made

There often times is no evidence or its entirely in Chinese. You tell a lib that their article has no evidence and they completely ignore you. That’s all they ever do.

This subject in particularly is annoying as fuck. The only big repositories debunking this stuff are ML subs and grayzone articles and a lib will immediately discount those two sources. Best way to counter Zenz shit is to point out he’s a bigoted zealot to tarnish his word. Libs eyes gloss otherwise.

This is all ignoring the fact that Zenz is paid to write this bullshit and I am paid to do 40hrs a week of physical labor. I do not have time to go through every Zenz article and write up counter points with sources. Memes are a much better value proposition.